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started by Katzwinkel on 11/5/09.

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Katzwinkel posts another gaffe by Palin, her referring to a "department of law" at the white house. What his point against actually is, he leaves for the rest of us to guess at (imprecise speech during an interview? stupidity?). Anyway, every politician, professor, speaker, interviewee, etc. has gaffes. This is my point exactly: the fact that Sarah Palin is immediatedly considered a joke for her gaffes while the gaffes of others aren't immediate disqualifiers (does anyone remember the 57 states in President O'Bama's United States?) is exactly the double standard that is so obnoxious. I'm not calling for more gaffe sensitivity here, just fairness. For crying out loud, it seems that every time Vice President Biden opens his mouth something goofy or incorrect comes out of it. Does that make him unserious? No. Sarah palin deserves to be able to play on the same field as everyone else.

by egorz13 (63.54) on 11/16/09.

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Once Sarah Palin became a lightning rod, the lightning strikes were continuous. Opponents and journalists made charges and launched investigations, some frivolous and others not so frivolous. With all these starving predators scraping around the tundra looking for meat, governing became difficult - and extremely expensive for the citizens of the state. Some would say she sacrificed hersef to the wolves so the herd (Alaska) could go on about it's business without harassment.

by egorz13 (63.54) on 11/20/09.

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Politicians routinely do not finish their terms. Granted, that is mostly because they seek higher office. But is it really any better that the citizens of Illinois were left without a full-time senator while President Obama went campaigning for president? I would have preferred it if he had resigned and been replaced with someone who actually wanted to be senator. So Barack Obama effectively serves only 1/3 of his term before his ambition calls him to leave his post and that is ok, while Sarah Palin leaves her post to benefit the citizens of her state (but probably mostly because her ambition is beckoning her too) and that is not ok? If it's acceptable practice for President Obama and countless other politicians, why is it a point against Sarah Palin?

by egorz13 (63.54) on 11/20/09.

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The AP fact check piece referred to by Katzwinkel is a great example of the double standard that Sarah Palin is being made to endure. The AP, maybe to justify the expense of 11 contributing writers, picked some "errors" from the book that are either not really errors at all or are subjective opinion. The only fact-like fact check item, her frugality as governor of Alska, admits that "she usually opted for less-pricey hotels" but the authors evidently think that the existence of a trip that cost Alaska a whopping "well over $3,000" is cause enough to issue a verdict of Palin having "gone Rogue on some facts." Thin gruel for people obviously eager to tear her down.


by egorz13 (63.54) on 11/16/09.

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While I'm still unsure about her myself, the level and type of criticism toward her really gets the contrarian impulse going in me. She simultaneously, though unintentially, illustrates just how hollow some followers of feminism really are while also highlighting the arrogance of a certain brand of elitist regardless of political affiliation. The gross double standard in the criticism she receives versus a male politician or a female politician of a leftist ideology is more than enough for me to throw some support her way. She still has to prove herself worthy of the national stage, though.

by egorz13 (63.54) on 11/16/09.

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Sarah Palin has been a mayor, governor, and vice presidential candidate.

by egorz13 (63.54) on 12/5/09.

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I think that one reason she is such a target by the left is that they are in fear that young females might admire her. What's to admire, a woman of humble beginnings and while raising a family becomes mayor of her city and then governor. She is athletic, good looking and charismatic, and has chosen to be a leader not a victim. Heaven forbid that young women might want to follow in her footsteps. It is an effective strategy to attempt to ruin her image.

by allonzo1 (22.07) on 12/21/09.

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She's a fascinating woman who will make a great talk show host on Fox News.

by JackCNewell (51.52) on 11/22/09.

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She did not finish her term as governor. People in her state and in her party raised and spent a lot of money to get her in that office because they believed she was the right person for the job and she let them down.

by Uklamok (62.03) on 11/19/09.

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"I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out." --Sarah Palin, referring to a department that does not exist while attempting to explain why as president she wouldn't be subjected to the same ethics investigations that compelled her to resign as governor of Alaska, ABC News interview, July 7, 2009


by Katzwinkel (69.39) on 11/16/09.

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This point is not directed solely at Sarah Palin. Instead, it is directed at what she is emblematic of. A long time ago our country stopped searching for the "best and brightest." Now, our voters seem to crave political leaders "who they can have a beer with" or who they think are like them. I, for one, want elected leaders to be really smart, thoughtful, pragmatic, a supporter of science, and not a "NASCAR dad", "soccer mom", or "hot moose hunting governor."

One commentator who has posted regarding this topic has complained that Sarah Palin is the victim of the leftist media conspiracy to destroy a strong conservative woman. However, without the soundbite and image driven media, Sarah Palin would not even be known. The utter lack of meaningful content in what we call "news" in the era of the internet is the exact genesis of politicians of Palin's ilk. The modern form of what passes for "journalism" is the reason why Abraham Lincoln would be nothing more than a fine lawyer today. The public's acceptance of flash over substance would doom any opportunity for Lincoln to lead our country. I find Palin and her supporter's criticisms of the media to be hollow; especially in light of the fact that it is the paparazzi form of news coverage that gave political birth to the "hot moose hunting governor." Americans should demand more for itself and stop settling.

by elwoodlaw (83.67) on 12/4/09.

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I love her supporter's typical response to the "liberal media attacks" on their beloved. It's easy to say, "every politician, professor, speaker, interviewee, etc. has gaffes", while failing to notice the statistical regularity of them.

There seems to be an incredible amount of denial going on by her supporters. If a rational person points out the numerous occasions when Palin has attempted to prove her ignorance, they are told they are being overly critical or are sexist, or there is a "gross double standard". As if this is proof to refute the contrary. Not all criticism is politically motivated, sometimes it IS valid.

Sounding Stupid + Being "Folksy" ≠ Smart

Show me her IQ score, have her take a geography or civics test, or just have an interview with someone where she doesn't back up her platform with gut reaction, witticisms, and faith. Otherwise, I will stand by my belief that she is of diminished mental capacity, and I don't want anyone like that running their mouth, let alone the country.

by juszczak (68.66) on 12/5/09.

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By early November 2009, Palin’s Going Rogue book was the number one seller on Amazon.com and other leading booksellers. Before its release, the Associated Press obtained a copy of the 432-page book, fact-checked it, and found it interesting but with several inaccuracies. The AP's review reported, "Ignoring substantial parts of her record if not the facts, she depicts herself as a frugal traveler on the taxpayer's dime, a reformer without ties to powerful interests and a politician roguishly indifferent to high ambition." In response to the AP review, Palin said on her Facebook page, "...as is expected, the AP and a number of subsequent media outlets are erroneously reporting the contents of the book. Keep your powder dry, read the book, and enjoy it!" A former senior McCain campaign official reviewed book excerpts about Palin accusing the campaign of keeping her away from the news media, and the official said, "Apparently the excerpts from the book are a continuation of a well-established and documented pattern where she (Palin) makes representations that are exaggerations or fiction."


by Katzwinkel (69.39) on 11/16/09.

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WHEN THIS ARGUMENT IS REFUTED, I WILL DELETE THIS COMMENT

Look through the "FOR" list on the left. What don't you see? An argument FOR Sarah Palin, that's what. Every defense of her has nothing to do with her qualifications or abilities, they're only whining about everyone being so mean to poor, poor Sarah (or as Elwoodlaw calls her, "hot moose hunting governor").

Show us a reason "FOR" Sarah Palin, not just "NOT AGAINST" her!

by juszczak (68.66) on 12/5/09.

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She took a provision for end of life counseling, which she previously supported, and turned it into the infamous "death panels," a piece of hyperbolic, underhanded fiction, just to oppose the other side. This was not only hypocritical and intellectually dishonest, but demonstrably false. How much dirtier could politics be than saying the other side wants to murder your grandmother?

by DClary (65.15) on 12/12/09.

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The more I learn about her, the less I like, admire, and respect her.

by spazol (74) on 11/8/09.

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She made George bush look like an accomplished orator.

by Uklamok (62.03) on 11/8/09.

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Sarah Palin may be burdened with the cross of a double-standard. She may be crucified by a media circus that hates her simply for being her. She may be unfairly categorized as a moron for her gaffes. She may very well have to endure the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. Not one of these things alters the possibility of Sarah Palin being a lying douchebag moron.

Also, Sarah Palin is a lying douchebag moron.

by Katzwinkel (69.39) on 11/17/09.

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While I have yet to see anything that establishes her as a politician of any merit, I wouldn't kick her out of bed. I, however, would kick every single one of the Founding Fathers out. So, by my "kick out of bed" system, Sarah Palin gets two thumbs down... at my groin... which is giving her one "thumb" up.

by amichalski (47.96) on 11/30/09.

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She quit a 5k.


by otm_shank (54.55) on 12/1/09.

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